So all my settings are set

  The last 2 options defines how big my output file will become

  RF and Sound quality

  Considering how large the TV are becoming (2.40 panoramic)...i'm divided in the fact that i should go for higther quality rather then keeping a descent file size...

  I don't beleive the difference between DTS and HD DTS is that much....

This is the difference between 1.5 gigs and 3.5 gigs just for an audio track

Of course if you only have an AC3 and an BDLCMA ...

Then it is the difference between 600 megs and 3.5 gigs for the audio track

  Then you have the RF ....

  I'm wondering if i should simply go for

RF20 + DTS / RF20 + BDLCMA

  In another hand, it always goes to what do you think acceptable... but i don't want to repeat this process every once in a while ...i'm not talking about jsut a little pack of 20 br's ...

  I know 4k BR are already comming out....but at some point you won't be able to follow because of the size restriction...

You can only have 4 TB's harddrive and i'm not sure i want a harddrive with hellium...hasnt been there for long enought...

  Your though's on that?

I'm going to give this an honest effort. I'm totally against this but figure now with a dedicated server just idling mmoat always, might as well utilize it. I'm doing the new wolverine. My original 1:1 mkv is over 32gigs and over 2 hours viewing time. I set HB to very slow and 20 same fps, audio auto through to leave dtshd in tact. Its projecting roughly 3 hours to reencode, does that eta sound right?. I'll give my thoughts tomorrow.

My setup

120" 16x9 screen

11ft seating distance



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Originally Posted by jbcain  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24206899

I'm going to give this an honest effort. I'm totally against this but figure now with a dedicated server just idling mmoat always, might as well utilize it. I'm doing the new wolverine. My original 1:1 mkv is over 32gigs and over 2 hours viewing time. I set HB to very slow and 20 same fps, audio auto through to leave dtshd in tact. Its projecting roughly 3 hours to reencode, does that eta sound right?. I'll give my thoughts tomorrow.

My setup

120" 16x9 screen

11ft seating distance

For a dark movie like that I would typically do between 16 and 18 for the quality and use Very Slow. I would expect it to take between 4 and 6 hours on my i7 3770 @ stock speeds. You should get close to 1/2 the size in video and you might be able to find some blemishes if you spend the entire movie pixel peeping. But if you're just watching the movie you'll never now you're watching a re-compressed copy.


ElJimador, i'm use to handbrake, but since i've first looked at all the settings few years ago, things have changed a bit.  The new version offers more and the tendencies of RF 22 seem to be leaning more toward 17 now if you read posts in differents forums...well at least for some people talking about it.  Now 17 may be exagerate but you have to ask yourself why...

Now i do not own a 60'' TV and it isn't planned in the next future....but if i have to convert them once, you want to make it pretty...

  So lately, my BR's output file size was leaning more toward the 3-5 gigs... while a year ago it was more like 6-8 gigs....at some point your asking yourself if your not missing something even though your pretty sure your using the exact same settings......usualy a 4 TB file is more likely for a 720 movie, not a 1080...

Now i like 8 gigs for a movie, it seem a faire trade from 30-40 gigs compressed to 8 gigs...while 8 gigs will of course take on some spaces on my computer but something that i can live with....while 15 gigs would request me to buy lots of addtional harddrive...

I want to use the variable framerate though so that dark scene will take more kbps than others...and it's fine...if i end up with some movies at 14 gigs, it's ok while others will be 6-9 gigs for the same quality type...

  Your saying that converting 100 BR's is just spending some time, no big deal.  I don't know if you've converted that many, but i can tell you it takes lots of your time, time you may not want to spend on this, on doiing this all over again later on in your life... pick a number,,lets say 500 BRs ...multiply this by an average of 40 gigs, this is what you'll have to transfert on your computer prior to converting them.  Then load them one by one in Handbrake and choose the appropriate sound track, subs etc...takes an average of 1 minute per movie? thanks to the new version, you can transfert the subs too which you couldn't before.... Now lets say it's 6 hours to convert per movie

So you'll transfert 20000 gigs, spend 8 hours on handbrake settings and your computer is gonna work for 125 days 24h a day at full capacity.   And i'm jsut talking about compressed time stamp...because you have to spend some time to transfert each BR's and after that to place each file on the appriate drive....backups etc...

  Trust me, you'll prefer to do this once...

  Now if you follow's Aleron Hives idea of converting the soundtrack, then your on for a couple of days....perhaps a month...

Even though it's probably a good idea, i'm not sur i like mixing with the soundtrack, all that time that i'll have to put to do that, i'd probably rather buy a couple more TB's drive to cover the space then spend additionals hundreds of hours of my time on this....



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Originally Posted by Someone65478  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24218333

I want to use the variable framerate though so that dark scene will take more kbps than others...

How does the variable framerate matter here? Did you mean variable bitrate?



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Originally Posted by jbcain  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24206899

I'm going to give this an honest effort. I'm totally against this but figure now with a dedicated server just idling mmoat always, might as well utilize it. I'm doing the new wolverine. My original 1:1 mkv is over 32gigs and over 2 hours viewing time. I set HB to very slow and 20 same fps, audio auto through to leave dtshd in tact. Its projecting roughly 3 hours to reencode, does that eta sound right?. I'll give my thoughts tomorrow.

My setup

120" 16x9 screen

11ft seating distance

My honest review with the above output file:

Went from 33.5 gigs to 8 gigs

Very impressed.

Couldn't discern the differences on a 17" 1080p IPS monitor, 32" 1080p samsung, 40" 1080p Samsung

Could see some artifacts on the 58" 1080p samsung plasma

Could see many flaws on 120" 1080p PJ

Now, I may try 17 or 18 just to see, but I'm just not sure it'll ever be good enough for the large screen. But the others, like I said, I'm very impressed with the improvement on compression since years ago when I tried them.



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Originally Posted by jbcain  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24228539

My honest review with the above output file:

Went from 33.5 gigs to 8 gigs

Very impressed.

Couldn't discern the differences on a 17" 1080p IPS monitor, 32" 1080p samsung, 40" 1080p Samsung

Could see some artifacts on the 58" 1080p samsung plasma

Could see many flaws on 120" 1080p PJ

Now, I may try 17 or 18 just to see, but I'm just not sure it'll ever be good enough for the large screen. But the others, like I said, I'm very impressed with the improvement on compression since years ago when I tried them.

On 16 I can't see any differences on a 150" screen. I don't know anyone with a bigger screen so I haven't been able to test.



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Originally Posted by techmattr  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24228789

On 16 I can't see any differences on a 150" screen. I don't know anyone with a bigger screen so I haven't been able to test.

What pj and screen are you using? And what is your seating distance.



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Originally Posted by jbcain  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24229516

What pj and screen are you using? And what is your seating distance.

In my home I have a 55" Vizio M @ 8~10'

I'll often bring encoded rips on a thumb drive to friends houses though to test out some bigger screens.


You said "On 16 I can't see any differences on a 150" screen"

What's the output file size?

To obtain a balance between quality and size, I've been using the following settings with the High Profile :

Bluray: 22 RF usually gives me a ~5GB file for Live Action movies. Animated movies end up at 3-4GB and sometimes I bump the RF to 20 and get ~5GB file. For reference, iTunes 1080p movies are around 5GB.

DVD: 18 RF usually gives me a 1.5-2GB file. I bump it up to 20 RF for longer films like LOTR.

The Bluray encodes look great and I haven't found a case that I noticed a picture quality degrade from a direct Bluray rip (but I don't look that closely).

I can see artifacts when playing the DVD Handbrake encodes on a 70" 1080p LED, but I attribute the artifacts to the 480p to 1080p upscaling. I have noticed that my AppleTV seems to do a good job upscaling 480p encodes, but I'm sure I could get MPC-HC to do better if I tinkered around with some of the advanced stuff.



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Originally Posted by squeakybirnbaum  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24229459

I use High Profile RF21 on all my Blurays. I watch on a 73" Mitsubishi DLP from about 12 feet away and can't tell a difference.

Encouring to hear. As I said a bit earlier in this thread, this is the CQ I've been using for blurays too but with only a 40" TV now I've been a bit concerned that I'll notice flaws I don't see now when I step up to a 65 or 70" TV instead. Hopefully my perception will track with yours and that won't be necessary when the time comes.



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Originally Posted by Someone65478  /t/1491023/optimal-settings-for-handbrake-blu-ray-and-dvd-rips/30#post_24242841

You said "On 16 I can't see any differences on a 150" screen"

What's the output file size?

I use RF 16 ~ 18 on a lot of content and that range typically ends up around 50% of the original size. Some TV shows however end up being the same size as the original.


Well half the size, that can be big, if the movie is 40 gigs on the blu-ray, half of it would be 20 gigs....

  I think i'm gonna go for:

RF 18 for DVD using cropping custom 0,0,0,0

RF19 for BR using automatic cropping

  I'll use the same settings for the rest

  Anamorphic: Strict

Filter: Default, Default, Off, Off, Deblock on the left

Video Codec: H264 MKV

Framerate: Same as source with Variable Framerate

  Use advanced Tab

Reference Frames: 4

Maximum B-Frames: 4

Cabac, 8x8 Transform, Weighted P-Frames all check

Pyramidal B-Frames: Normal (Default)

Adaptive B-Frames: Optimal

Adaptive Direct Mode: Automatic

Motion Est Method: Uneven Multi-Hexagon

Subpixel Motion Est: 10:QPRD in all frames

Motion Est Range: 16

Partition Type: All

Trellis: Always

  "ref=4:bframes=4:b-adapt=2:direct=auto:me=umh:subme=10:analyse=all:trellis=2"

  For subs, i'll pick the first subs of each langage

For Audio i'll prioritise in order: DTS, DTS-HD/BDLCMA, AC3

  My only issue right now is how to extract BDLCMA...because Handbrake can't soo far

I could probable extract it with HdBrStreamExtractor, but if i includ it back with MKVMerge, is there gonna be a proper codec to read the audio when times come to play it....

I haven't tested it....I'll start first with the DTS....